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RAGLM Board > General Discussion > Agenda 21, losing your property rights.
4/30/2012 8:49:08 PM
Thumbs down to that!Reply: Cindy Ferry
BillB ... Thumbs down to that! Man Oh Man, were did we go wrong and how did the people get sucked in so easily?
4/30/2012 8:32:25 AM
Waking US UpReply: BillB
Roy, an ever growing cadre of people have been fighting Agenda 21 since its inception. Unfortunately, it takes a catastrophic attack like 911 or Pearl Harbor to wake enough people to get anything done. The UN is in our back yard and will soon be firmly entrenched in our daily lives.
4/28/2012 11:18:32 PM
Listening in:Reply: Tonette
Cool, let's do it. :)
Oh, well, nice thought.
4/26/2012 12:27:11 PM
Turning Up The Lights!Reply: Cindy Ferry
Hey, can we use the regular, old fashioned bulbs?  They are so much better and as soon you hit the switch the room lights up.  Not like these new things that take a while for light up and be able to see.  If we've going to show these guys for who they are, we need to be able to hit the switch and see them right now.  That or let's get one of those monitors they use on us, to see and hear through our walls of our homes and pick up their body heat and keep an eye on them 24/7. We can even give them the same promise, that we will ONLY use it to catch the bad guys. So, if they have nothing to hide, their rights shouldn't be an issue to them either! I mean, if they are going to talk the talk, shouldn't they be willing to walk the walk?  They are asking us to.
4/26/2012 11:34:28 AM
ICLEI in our areaReply: Roy
Our tax monies are being spent to fund an international organization, whose agenda is leftist, and ecology oriented above all other concerns (such as your employment, your single family home, your automobile, even your Nation.)  They have changed their name taking out the word "International" and putting in "Local" to obscure their mission, running like roaches, when the lights began to turn on.  Lets shine the light brighter.  Some have woken up, and divested their community from ICLEI.  One brave example here:  http://councilmanjessfields.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/a-primer-on-iclei-an-organization-c-s-will-withdraw-from/

To see how prevalent this stuff is, look here:
You will see in the first pages a number of people and agencies that we pay our money to or our taxes to, and they in turn pay for membership and get direction from ICLEI.  Does Waste Management charge you money to belong to ICLEI?  You betcha!  And so do many others.
May I add, Article 1 section 10, from the US Constitution:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

This section forbids all but the Federal government, from making International agreements, treaties, or making payment to such.  It may indeed be Treasonous to enter into such agreements and payments of taxpayer's monies to foreign or International entities.  I would caution those in government that the pendulum has swung far before we took notice, but it swings both ways.

4/24/2012 9:48:27 AM
To Billy B-Duck & Cover!Reply: Cindy Ferry
My mother and I get into this by phone and 2 or 3 hrs will fly by ... her trying to talk me into voting for Obama.  I keep telling her, I'm 55 years old and she's heading for her 80's and she knows as well as I do that this is the WORST our country has EVER been.  For THIS we should vote Obama back in?  Are you crazy?  I tell her it will be a Cold, Cold day in (you know where) before I do that.  She wants to feed me that bull that it wasn't him that brought us to this point.  I tell her he PROMISED he would fix it.  Has he?  Has he stopped it from getting worse?  Then the key question, will anyone be able to?
4/24/2012 9:30:27 AM
Good Luck Roy!Reply: Cindy Ferry
When you really look, watch and see ... then and only then do your eyes get opened. They sell them on it being for their protection and safety and give it words that sound so nice and comfortable, like "Community Center," "Parkway," "Rural Commercial," "Sustainable Living" and "Healthy Communities." It's going up not out and it's make us dependant and get us to give up taking care of ourselves and just follow and do as you are told. They have found some really do want to take care of themselves and do it themselves and don't want a lot of the "Bling" and so they have to create and generate laws to keep us from being self sufficient and gee, maybe FREE!  I know I’m over my 500 character limit, but I couldn’t get it down any shorter.  But, I agree with you.
4/24/2012 9:02:09 AM
Please help avoid another Obamanation.Reply: BillB
Agenda 21 was presented at a world conference in Brazil in, I believe, 1989. Since then the Clintons and Obama have been slowly foisting more and more of this implementation on us (Cap and Trade, NAFTA, etc.). Property loss is only a small art of this horrendous plan. The real purpose is world control by the UN. There is another world conference scheduled, and one item on the agenda is to report on the progress in implementation of Agenda 21.

Remember Obama's words, "I will have more flexibility after the election."
4/23/2012 9:57:31 PM
Agenda 21 replyReply: Roy
I am sure a lot of people have heard of Agenda 21, and promptly rolled their eyes and dismissed it as conspiracy nonsense. That was intended.  I have concluded it IS a conspiracy, not just a theory.  Here is a good presentation on the basics:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I

Locally, Riverside County, the cities of Murrietta and Temecula and many other parts of California have memberships in ICLEI.  Find out more here:  http://www.icleiusa.org

Seen the developments in our down towns lately?  Have you noticed they follow the same scheme; street level (empty) businesses, then two floors of getto, errr I mean affordable housing?  Have you noticed vast  open spaces closed and locked away from human use?  Have you felt that your rural property and lifestyle are in the way and that there seems to be forces at work against us, shepherding us toward city centers and high density living?  Well, you are right!
This link is also informative, although he wishes to sell stuff:  http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom212.htm
You can also search youtube for Rosa Korie, she is very informative.

We were asleep too long, this stuff is entrenched.  If enough of us wake up, we can make a difference.  Or we can get on the train.  I hear there are nice shower facilities waiting...

2/23/2012 1:05:07 PM
Who they areReply: Nathan
I forgot for those that do not know how they are.

'Spooky Dude' = George Soros, responsible for collapsing the economy of England and now betting on the collapse of the American economy. 

Van Jones = Occupy Movement Leader, and Obama's ex energy czar.

What will happen when China decides to stop buying our debt?

Do not take my word for it, look into them yourself, just thought I would let you know.
2/23/2012 12:44:56 PM
Agenda 21, losing your property rights.Post: Nathan
Something has recently come to my attention and I just had to share it with all of you. Take it any way you want, I just wanted you all to be aware of what is really happening to our Country. Some information on how it may affect us in our rural communities.

Movie Trailer (overview) 

Interview with some Points of View - Executive Order (Rural Council)

More detailed video

Read the whole thing here - UN Agenda 21, PLEASE read the words carefully if you choose to read the whole thing.

Take it however you want, just thought you should be aware.

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