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RAGLM Board > Proposed Development > Planning Commission Agenda
1/12/2014 5:14:28 PM
Rural LivingReply: Sandy
We moved to Gavilan Hills because we wanted to live in the 'country'! I love hearing the sounds and smells of the animals, I love living on our dirt road, I love the open fields and our little markets-- this is country living! I had lived most of my life in the city on paved roads, with all the conveniences nearby, and the only animal sounds were barking dogs yet I yearned for something different, something better.  We have something very precious up here - a rural community -- and need to work together to keep it that way for as long as possible!   
1/10/2014 8:04:22 PM
Change requires vigilanceReply: BillB
Sheep are never cognizant of changes. Dogs, especially working dogs, are completely vigilant and know to protect the sheep from dangerous changes in their environment. I would much rather be a dog than a sheep. When change comes I want to be able to react. 
1/10/2014 1:46:23 PM
Change IS Good.Reply: Nathan
   I completely agree with you. Change is good and development is nothing to be afraid of. Growth brings jobs and prosperity, that is a given. There is only the issue of having it done correctly so a community can end up a much more desirable community to live in while keeping the theme of what people move out here for.
1/10/2014 11:13:07 AM
Nothing Remains The Same ForeverReply: Hugh
Change. A simple word but yet very powerful. Especially when you look at it from the perspective of the Obama promises - that change is not what most hoped for. However, change is inevitable, there is no excaping it. It's a 'built-in' factor of growth that is ongoing.

In 1950 there was only one Mooney in the local Orange County phone book. We would drive by way of two-lane roads from Fullerton through orange groves to go shopping in the giant city of Santa Ana. There were no malls, no shopping centers, no supermarkets. Yet, that small community where we lived near Brookhurst St. and Orangethorpe survived and thrived from growth. My parents payed $8995.00 for their first home - 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1 car garage and an orange tree in the back yard.

Fear not, the general Lake Mathews area will survive despite changes. Your property will be the same property for years to come. However, there may be some conveniences that are closer by. One day we could have a great golf course nearby that would increase the value of our homes. Would you like to drive only 3 or 4 miles to get groceries instead of 12? How far do you drive now to get gas?

Finally. Growth is not always bad when it is done correctly.
1/10/2014 9:29:04 AM
How a community goes from Rural living to City living.Reply: Nathan
I just wanted to share with all of you what happens with planning dept. as well as most Govt.'s in our country today. You see they create this thing called a General Plan. A General Plan is how a County plans to build, zone etc. In our General Plan, our area is set to be rural agriculture. There is a dirty little secret they have called 'Specific Plans'. This allows any land owner to simply change the current zoning by way of request. This happens every single time. I have yet to see one not be approved myself. The argument is, well it is their land and they have a right to request. I completely agree with that and am a big 5th amendment advocate. The problem is that we are told a community will be a certain way so we buy a house or property in that area because that is how we wish to live. Then we are only human and we see $$$ so we decide to sell our property because we choose not to live there anymore. We naturally want as much as we can get for that property as does the developer with as many units as he can sell and the county which will get more tax payers.

The problem in my opinion is why are we currently spending millions of dollars to evaluate, survey and plan for our county when that plan simply means nothing or is viewed as a guideline. Seems to me we could save a ton of money by not doing the same job twice but maybe that is why I am not working for the Govt.

PLEASE pay attention to these things and speak up as RAGLM tries it's best. It takes you to speak up and stop this if you want to as our officials only listen to numbers of people who can vote.

With all of that said, RAGLM is looking into this one further and will take appropriate action but I can assure you this WILL keep happening and your wonderful rural community will eventually be a thing of the past.

I will say that our current planning commissioner as well as our current land planner have both been very good at keeping RAGLM informed of proposed development and have also worked with us on how things may develop in the area. This is good and we hope it will continue.

I just needed you all to know what is going on in our community.

Please stay informed!
1/10/2014 9:09:12 AM
Planning Commission AgendaPost: Nathan
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