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WHAT WILL YOU DO IF THE USA REALLY DOES FALL??? ARE YOU PLANNING?

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3/2/2011 6:52:39 PM
Real Estate YesReply: Nathan
Lisa,
   You could not be more right. I agree with you 100%. Many Millionaires were made after the Great Depression. You can always have a management company manage it. Prices and Interest rates are at historic lows, there is really only one way it can go from here. Over time, great investment and if you are worried about deflation of the dollar, as you stated, it will not matter as you can take your rent in whatever currency you wish.
3/2/2011 5:24:47 PM
Buy Real EstateReply: Lisa
That was an insanely long sales pitch...................I do agree with a lot of what was said but before I buy silver or gold and alllow a company to "store it off shore" for me I would recommend buying as much real estate as you can. Some of you don't like the idea of being a landlord but it does give you a certain amount of financial freedom which you control. People will ALWAYS need a place to live and you can accept rent payments in any currency you choose.  
3/2/2011 3:48:52 PM
You Are CorrectReply: Nathan
Rick,
   You are absolutely correct and I apologize for the simple generalization. I should have said some Christians as is the same with Muslims, they are not all radical. Yes, I know it is the Mayan calendar as well as NASA's observatory on Antarctica simply for the purpose of tracking Dark Star. I do not believe in the 2012 prophecy either, though I do need to point out how scary it is that some are trying to fulfill this prophecy. I do know quite a few Christians who believe the Mayan prophecy and again do apologize for the generalization. I should not have stated it in that manner.

Cindy is right, you should at least view this video: Stansberry's Investment Advisory
3/2/2011 3:28:00 PM
a little miss informationReply: rick
nathan,
i agree with most of what you said but you have really missed the mark with a bit of your info. wherever did you get the idea that christians think the world is going to end in 2012? i've been a christian a long time and i know a lot of christians and none of us think that. what we do believe and know is that no one knows the day or time, that's up to GOD. it sounds like your getting your myans and christians mixed up. the myans believed the world would end in 2012 and that's when they ended their calendars. i would chance to say you are not a christian.
3/2/2011 1:30:26 PM
Times Are TellingReply: Nathan
Oh Cindy,

  I love your hopefulness. I saw this months ago, you must have just started watching FOX news as I know the liberal media will not show you this. I however am not so hopeful as I have studied human psychology. It all began at the turn of the 20th Century with Sigmund Froid and Teddy Roosevelt. We went from the Gilded era to the Progressive era. Edward Benay's (look him up, you will be frightened) has changed us from a needs society to a desires society. You see humans are selfish by nature so they refuse to see the truth even if it affects them. This is called the Status Quo Bias.

It goes back to the origination of Social Security, when it began the first recipient put in $2,400 and got back $22,000. It does not take a genius to figure out that the math does not work. That is a 900% profit. The simple fact is that we all thought of ourselves and said; wow I can now not worry about retirement because the feds will take care of it for me. We neglected to see the facts. Also, with Medicare/Medicaid. It has been under funded for decades and I know everyone has heard of the 'Baby Boomers' because my unedumacated self has heard about them my whole life. For those of you who do not know who they are, they are the children from the parents of WWII. Now it has been 65 years since the Baby Boomers where to collect Medicare/Medicaid, do not tell me that we just realized that 30% of our population is going to retire on the backs of the rest of us. I know, it sounded so good and it came from our wonderful always honest Government that no one even questioned it. Let me ask everyone this question: Are you willing to give up your health care and social security so your children might have a chance at true freedom? I do not see anyone jumping at that idea. WELCOME to the Century of SELF.

We know the consequences but frankly do not care. That sure seems like a different mind set of the Baby Boomers parents who lived through such hell, they simply wanted to make sure their children never had to go through the same things. What they left out is history and teaching their children why this happened and that it could happen again. Look back into history, monetization of debt, printing money, what happen then? We somehow think it will never happen to us because we have been fortunate enough to never have to think about it. Time for a huge wake up call. I do agree with you that it is simply Ignorance, (Ignorance Begins With I). The problem is, is that it is now too late and there is nothing that can be done. Gietner and Bernanke truly believe in the wait for it 'Fundamental Change of America' and 'Spreading the Wealth Around'. Somehow everyone thought it meant taking from the rich and giving to them, equality right. LOL, we forget how rich we are compared to the rest of the world.

Gietner and Bernanke are continually printing money and in fact yesterday Bernanke stated that the rise of gas prices has not caused any major problems for citizens yet. Are we not aware that our currency is a global standard? Are we not aware what of happens when a simple supply exceeds a demand? It becomes worthless. So now ask yourself why there is a food shortage in other countries and why they are overthrowing their dictators in the name of Democracy. First we do not live in a Democracy we live in a Republic and I believe it still says it on our Flag. Second, this is a union thing, Andy Stern, AFLCIO president stated that his new union organization 'Workers of the World Unite' was not just a slogan anymore, he said that 'we' are going to use the power of persuasion and if that does not work we are going to use the persuasion of power. Egypt was organized by an ex-Google executive through FaceBook. Who was the number one reason for Obama's election in 08? That's right FaceBook, who owns FaceBook? That's right Google. Who are the protesters in Wisconsin trying to be like, "Our Egyption Brothers". You see they are fighting over something called collective bargaining, and they are calling it their right. I do not even know how to begin here as any intelligent human knows that collective bargaining is not only un-constitutional but it is a socialist process. If you hire an employee and they suck at their job, what would you do? If you are a rational human being, you would fire them, that simple. Well if they belong to the Union, you may not have that right. You may have to pay them even if they do not work. Would you pay an employee who does not come to work? And if you do, how do you make up the cost because I know you are not going to take it out of your salary? Can I work for you?

You see it is a tactic to bully business owners into doing what is good for the collective. Now that does not seem like equal opportunity to me. Oh that's right it is equal for the employee's because those evil corporations are so mean and they just want to push you to work harder for less pay. Last time I checked that is called efficiency. Wow, are we really so lazy that we believe we can do a sub-par job and that we should still be paid equal to others? Does anyone not have a right to quit a job they hate? People may or may not agree with the laws of the land but they are just that, the laws of the land and they apply to all of us equally. Remember, people are wealthy because they choose to be, and people are poor because they choose to be. I know that is a shocker and that can not be right as I am oppressed by the evil corporations. Well, I got news for you all, I do not have any fancy college degrees nor do I have a mass of wealth but I have never had any problems getting any job I wanted or making lots of money when I choose to. We are so selfish that we refuse to look at our own faults; it is always someone else's fault for my problems. That is simply not true, some of the richest most successful people in the world have come from the most humble and poor backgrounds. All they did was get off their a** and do something about it. It is harder than simply taking a paycheck, yes but the rewards are greater as well.

I hope for the sake of our country that people are prepared. Do you have food storage? Are your bills paid off? You see some simple facts of the effects: Food prices have risen roughly 10% on average since the beginning of this year, they are continuing to rise at about 6% a month. Gas went up $.17 in one day, the largest single jump in U.S. history. Are we still believing that everything will be OK? It is with anything in the world that does not sound nice and peachy or does not sound like something we want to be a part of. When you talk about Muslim's for example, you are instantly shot down and told you are crazy and that all the one's I know are kind and harmless. That may be the case, but are you aware that their religion calls for your death. Nice or not, I am a little worried about that. Christians believe that the world will end in 2012, what happens when we are still here and Dark Star never comes?

We are so ignorant because it is easier and yes "Ignorance Is Bliss" and that is why no one wants to see or hear the truth. I have been telling people about the economic collapse since 2004 and everyone thought I was crazy. At that time, the fair housing act was in affect and banks were forced to do sub-prime loans. They offered interest only loans to make it easy. Again our selfishness kicked in like it always does, I want a home, I have worked so hard my whole life, I deserve one. So everyone bought a home they could not afford and 85% of mortgages were adjustable, interest rates were at an all time low and the affordability index was at 14% (number of people who can afford the median home price). The only way things could go was bad, if you could not afford the home today, what makes you think that in 3-5 years when interest only loans kicked in with principal and oh by the way remember that wonderful interest rate you were getting it can not go any lower. How do you sell bad debt? Raise interest rates so an investor has a more desirable return on a high risk investment.

We have been in debt for as long as I can remember. It did not take a genius then either, but we did not care because it meant a house for me, yay. Today we are still playing the same game, Obama is still Obama and for some reason, we will probably vote him back in and then complain about what is happening. All I can say is that I live in the Twilight Zone and the Century of Self. The fight still exists between honest hard working people and self serving liberal morons who believe the man must go man. What will happen when 10% of the population pays for 90% of it and they start to raise taxes because there simply is not enough people paying them. If you had millions, would you keep giving it to the feds or would you move? Yet we somehow think they will not do the same, wow we are ignorant. Oh I could go on all day, time to wake up to reality people, pop the bubble and get a clue. I truly fear for my children. We can get through all this that is coming if we stick together and prepare ourselves to help others in need when the time comes. PLEASE prepare, what do you have to lose?
3/2/2011 11:55:56 AM
What Will You Do If The USA Really Does Fall??? Are You Planning?Post: Cindy Ferry
THIS IS IMPORTANT
YOU Can't Afford Not To Listen To This.
Play this only when you have the time to sit and just listen to this link. You won't want to try and listen to it while you do other things. This is important for each of us to listen to and decide what you think of what he has to say and if you/we need to act. I'm not ... NOT ... saying to buy his book. I'm not saying you have to do ANYTHING he says to do. I'm just saying to stop and listen. It will tell you where our government has taken us and where we are headed. IT'S IMPORTANT! I'll say it again, IT'S IMPORTANT! It's our country. It's our way of life. If you just close your eyes, close your ears, you can't expect anyone to help you if you weren't willing to pay attention and act when there was time to TRY and do something to save our country and to save yourself and your loved ones. Ignorance is NOT "Bliss!" Ignorance is Ignorance and it could leave you holding an empty bag, wondering where you go now. When the government can't help you, then what? Well, wake up America, we are already there. Unless you've had your head in the sand, you've heard that the cities are broke, the counties are broke, the states are broke and so in the Federal Government. That means it IS up to YOU to protect you.
Did/Do you prepare for an earthquake? Did you prepare for the Y2K? Did you prepare for chemical warfare? Well, I've got news for you, THIS is what you need to prepare for MOST OF ALL.
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